[Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal

Liu, Tao Tao.Liu at windriver.com
Tue May 7 19:36:57 UTC 2019


sysadmin +1

-----Original Message-----
From: Xie, Cindy [mailto:cindy.xie at intel.com] 
Sent: May 7, 2019 10:42
To: Bujold, Kristine <Kristine.Bujold at windriver.com>; Penney, Don <Don.Penney at windriver.com>; Saul Wold <sgw at linux.intel.com>; starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal

Sysadmin + 1, easier to spell then deployadmin.

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From: Bujold, Kristine [mailto:Kristine.Bujold at windriver.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 10:41 PM
To: Penney, Don <Don.Penney at windriver.com>; Saul Wold <sgw at linux.intel.com>; starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal

sysadmin +1

-----Original Message-----
From: Penney, Don [mailto:Don.Penney at windriver.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 10:38 AM
To: Saul Wold <sgw at linux.intel.com>; starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal

3 characters ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Saul Wold [mailto:sgw at linux.intel.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 10:36 AM
To: starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal



On 5/7/19 6:51 AM, Penney, Don wrote:
> I'd vote -1 on deployadmin based on length alone. It would be nice to keep it short... less typing :)
> 
It's only 2 characters longer than sysadmin and it is descriptive of the 
account.

Just saying, no vote yet from me..

Sau!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shuquan Huang [mailto:huang.shuquan at 99cloud.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 3:44 AM
> To: Saul Wold
> Cc: starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
> Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal
> 
> sysadmin +1
> 
> On May 7, 2019, at 6:24 AM, Saul Wold <sgw at linux.intel.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/6/19 2:43 PM, Perez Carranza, Jose wrote:
>> What about 'deployadmin' ?
> That's an interesting alternative.
> 
> Sau!
> 
>> Regards,
>> José
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jim Somerville [mailto:jim.somerville at windriver.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 4:08 PM
>>> To: Dean Troyer <dtroyer at gmail.com>; Wensley, Barton
>>> <Barton.Wensley at windriver.com>
>>> Cc: Saul Wold <sgw at linux.intel.com>; starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
>>> Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2019-05-06 2:32 p.m., Dean Troyer wrote:
>>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 1:06 PM Wensley, Barton
>>>> <Barton.Wensley at windriver.com> wrote:
>>>>> I guess I'm less concerned about using stx or starlingx than others. Obviously
>>> "wrs" is bad since it is tied to a company. But it seems common practice to use
>>> the project name for the default user (think nova, neutron, glance, etc...).
>>>>
>>>> The only reason I'd be reluctant to include a project identifier is
>>>> because those things can change and this is just painful enough to not
>>>> want to do again.
>>>>
>>>> 'admin' has other uses at the OS level, we need to be clear enough to
>>>> not cause confusion there.  Unless it has other similar uses
>>>> 'sysadmin' is the best I have heard and I do not have a better
>>>> suggestion.
>>>
>>> Just to be devil's advocate here, sysadmin could easily already be in use on a
>>> future port of this stuff to another platform.
>>>
>>>   From a security standpoint, it would be on an easily guessed list of userids for
>>> black hat penetration testing.
>>>
>>> It also shows up on the Big Username Blacklist.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/marteinn/The-Big-Username-
>>> Blacklist/blob/master/list_raw.txt
>>>
>>> -Jim
>>>
>>>>
>>>> dt
>>>>
>>>> Unless we want to use 'bikeshed' :)
>>>>
>>>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 10:45:34 -0400
From: Michel Thebeau <michel.thebeau at windriver.com>
To: Marcel Schaible <marcel at schaible-consulting.de>,
	<starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io>
Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Duplex: CEPH HEALTH_WARN after
	initial unlock of controller-0
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Hi Marcel,

Until the second node of the duplex configuration is configured and
unlocked one expects the ceph cluster would be "unhealthy", yes.

===

It seems to me that the documentation is not obvious on that subject,
but I'm not sure it needs to be.  If I understand the examples
correctly, on AIO-Simplex (one node), we set the "Ceph pool replication
to 1.  This step applies to AIO-SX only.", and therefore we expect ceph
to become healthy for the simplex configuration.  But with duplex, your
pool replication is 2... so it is waiting for the second cluster node
to come up.

Duplex instruction:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StarlingX/Containers/InstallationOnAIOD
X#Configure_Ceph_for_Controller-0

Duplex then refers to a portion of simplex instruction for ceph
configuration
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StarlingX/Containers/Installation#Confi
gure_Ceph_for_Controller-0

M


On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 15:20 +0200, Marcel Schaible wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> after unlocking controller-0 in a Duplex configuration ceph shows an
> HEALTH_WARN:
> 
> [wrsroot at controller-0 ~(keystone_admin)]$ ceph -s
>     cluster b6a2009b-7857-4bb6-835a-479b6ececb63
>      health HEALTH_WARN
>             448 pgs degraded
>             448 pgs stuck unclean
>             448 pgs undersized
>             recovery 1116/2232 objects degraded (50.000%)
>      monmap e1: 1 mons at {controller=172.27.1.100:6789/0}
>             election epoch 5, quorum 0 controller
>      osdmap e22: 2 osds: 1 up, 1 in
>             flags sortbitwise,require_jewel_osds
>       pgmap v1976: 448 pgs, 7 pools, 1588 bytes data, 1116 objects
>             91396 kB used, 952 GB / 952 GB avail
>             1116/2232 objects degraded (50.000%)
>                  448 active+undersized+degraded
> 
> Is this expected and when should the health status switch to
> HEALTH_OK?
> 
> We use the image from 20190429.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marcel
> 
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 07:52:50 -0700
From: Saul Wold <sgw at linux.intel.com>
To: "Penney, Don" <Don.Penney at windriver.com>,
	"starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io"
	<starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io>
Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal
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On 5/7/19 7:37 AM, Penney, Don wrote:
> 3 characters ;)
> 
ENOTAWAKE!

Alex suggested shortening admin -> adm, good thought

sysadm
deployadm
cloudadm
edgeadm

A rif on Controller:
ctrladm
conadm

Trying new terms!

Sau!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Saul Wold [mailto:sgw at linux.intel.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 10:36 AM
> To: starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
> Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/7/19 6:51 AM, Penney, Don wrote:
>> I'd vote -1 on deployadmin based on length alone. It would be nice to keep it short... less typing :)
>>
> It's only 2 characters longer than sysadmin and it is descriptive of the
> account.
> 
> Just saying, no vote yet from me..
> 
> Sau!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shuquan Huang [mailto:huang.shuquan at 99cloud.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 3:44 AM
>> To: Saul Wold
>> Cc: starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
>> Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal
>>
>> sysadmin +1
>>
>> On May 7, 2019, at 6:24 AM, Saul Wold <sgw at linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/6/19 2:43 PM, Perez Carranza, Jose wrote:
>>> What about 'deployadmin' ?
>> That's an interesting alternative.
>>
>> Sau!
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> José
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jim Somerville [mailto:jim.somerville at windriver.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 4:08 PM
>>>> To: Dean Troyer <dtroyer at gmail.com>; Wensley, Barton
>>>> <Barton.Wensley at windriver.com>
>>>> Cc: Saul Wold <sgw at linux.intel.com>; starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2019-05-06 2:32 p.m., Dean Troyer wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 1:06 PM Wensley, Barton
>>>>> <Barton.Wensley at windriver.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I guess I'm less concerned about using stx or starlingx than others. Obviously
>>>> "wrs" is bad since it is tied to a company. But it seems common practice to use
>>>> the project name for the default user (think nova, neutron, glance, etc...).
>>>>>
>>>>> The only reason I'd be reluctant to include a project identifier is
>>>>> because those things can change and this is just painful enough to not
>>>>> want to do again.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'admin' has other uses at the OS level, we need to be clear enough to
>>>>> not cause confusion there.  Unless it has other similar uses
>>>>> 'sysadmin' is the best I have heard and I do not have a better
>>>>> suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Just to be devil's advocate here, sysadmin could easily already be in use on a
>>>> future port of this stuff to another platform.
>>>>
>>>>    From a security standpoint, it would be on an easily guessed list of userids for
>>>> black hat penetration testing.
>>>>
>>>> It also shows up on the Big Username Blacklist.
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/marteinn/The-Big-Username-
>>>> Blacklist/blob/master/list_raw.txt
>>>>
>>>> -Jim
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> dt
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless we want to use 'bikeshed' :)
>>>>>
>>>>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 14:55:12 +0000
From: "Penney, Don" <Don.Penney at windriver.com>
To: Saul Wold <sgw at linux.intel.com>,
	"starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io"
	<starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io>
Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal
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	<6703202FD9FDFF4A8DA9ACF104AE129FBA494CE8 at ALA-MBD.corp.ad.wrs.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Of those, I'd prefer "sysadm". It's very accurate and stays generic enough in its purpose. It's an account for system administration, with no implications about the purpose of the system or when it's used.

So for me: sysadmin or sysadm (and I save 25% typing with sysadm!!)

-----Original Message-----
From: Saul Wold [mailto:sgw at linux.intel.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 10:53 AM
To: Penney, Don; starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal



On 5/7/19 7:37 AM, Penney, Don wrote:
> 3 characters ;)
> 
ENOTAWAKE!

Alex suggested shortening admin -> adm, good thought

sysadm
deployadm
cloudadm
edgeadm

A rif on Controller:
ctrladm
conadm

Trying new terms!

Sau!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Saul Wold [mailto:sgw at linux.intel.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 10:36 AM
> To: starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
> Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/7/19 6:51 AM, Penney, Don wrote:
>> I'd vote -1 on deployadmin based on length alone. It would be nice to keep it short... less typing :)
>>
> It's only 2 characters longer than sysadmin and it is descriptive of the
> account.
> 
> Just saying, no vote yet from me..
> 
> Sau!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shuquan Huang [mailto:huang.shuquan at 99cloud.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 3:44 AM
>> To: Saul Wold
>> Cc: starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
>> Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal
>>
>> sysadmin +1
>>
>> On May 7, 2019, at 6:24 AM, Saul Wold <sgw at linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/6/19 2:43 PM, Perez Carranza, Jose wrote:
>>> What about 'deployadmin' ?
>> That's an interesting alternative.
>>
>> Sau!
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> José
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jim Somerville [mailto:jim.somerville at windriver.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 4:08 PM
>>>> To: Dean Troyer <dtroyer at gmail.com>; Wensley, Barton
>>>> <Barton.Wensley at windriver.com>
>>>> Cc: Saul Wold <sgw at linux.intel.com>; starlingx-discuss at lists.starlingx.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Re-branding wrsroot proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2019-05-06 2:32 p.m., Dean Troyer wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 1:06 PM Wensley, Barton
>>>>> <Barton.Wensley at windriver.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I guess I'm less concerned about using stx or starlingx than others. Obviously
>>>> "wrs" is bad since it is tied to a company. But it seems common practice to use
>>>> the project name for the default user (think nova, neutron, glance, etc...).
>>>>>
>>>>> The only reason I'd be reluctant to include a project identifier is
>>>>> because those things can change and this is just painful enough to not
>>>>> want to do again.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'admin' has other uses at the OS level, we need to be clear enough to
>>>>> not cause confusion there.  Unless it has other similar uses
>>>>> 'sysadmin' is the best I have heard and I do not have a better
>>>>> suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Just to be devil's advocate here, sysadmin could easily already be in use on a
>>>> future port of this stuff to another platform.
>>>>
>>>>    From a security standpoint, it would be on an easily guessed list of userids for
>>>> black hat penetration testing.
>>>>
>>>> It also shows up on the Big Username Blacklist.
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/marteinn/The-Big-Username-
>>>> Blacklist/blob/master/list_raw.txt
>>>>
>>>> -Jim
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> dt
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless we want to use 'bikeshed' :)
>>>>>
>>>>
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