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</head><body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Sean,<br>
<span></span><br>
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style="color:#485664
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style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:
right;"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 4:08 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color: rgb(144, 154, 164); margin-left: 24px;
margin-right: 24px;" __pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div><!----><br>To
be clear, the issue isn't needing help writing up the submission. So
great<br>if someone can attend or watch for topics coming up that can be
pulled out into<br>Forum ideas, but the crux is that there are a lot of
things discussed at these<br>events and it may take several days after
it is over to realize, "hey, that<br>would be really useful if we could
discuss that at the Forum."<br></div></div>
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Totally understood. That's why we're suggesting to put a few (I counted
five Ops specific Forum talks in Berlin) placeholder
sessions in for Ops with a couple of high level sentences, to be
defined later. We're happy to help update the Forum suggestions after
y'all have had a chance to parse Meetup outcomes into Forum topics that
makes sense. <br>
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<div><br>I don't think what Erik asked for is unreasonable. The Ops
Meetup event is<br>exactly the target we want feeding into Forum
discussions. If we can give a<br>week after the event for the Ops Meetup
ends for this processing to happen, I<br>think we increase the odds of
an effective and useful Forum.<br></div>
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I understand the POV, but keep in mind we're also trying to program
against many other interests and we have deadlines that we have to reach
with regards to getting comms out to the rest of the community. We've
extended the deadline by two days, which I hope will give the Ops
Community enough time to parse the info from the Meetup into a few
bite-size bits that we can use as placeholders on the schedule, with
details TBD. <br>
<br>
I want to re-emphasize, Kendall and I are happy to help in any way
possible on this. If you want to pass along some napkin notes, we can do
help get those into the schedule :) It's critical that we provide at
least a straw man schedule to the community as early as possible, so we
can identify conflicts and travel considerations for our attendees. <br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Jimmy<br>
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<div><br>Can we please extend that deadline out a few more days to
make sure we get this<br>valuable input?<br></div>
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<div><br>Sean<br></div>
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style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:
right;"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 3:57 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:#909AA4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;"
__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div dir="ltr">Hello :) <br><br><div
class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Feb 27,
2019 at 1:26 PM Chris Morgan <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mihalis68@gmail.com">mihalis68@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">I think the issue is that forum
submissions building on what gets discussed in Berlin can't be expected
to be finalised whilst attendees to the berlin meetup are still
traveling. It's not that Erik can't pull these things together, in fact
he's an old hand at this, it's more that this process isn't reasonable
if there's so little time to collate what we learn in Berlin and feed it
forward to Denver. Frankly it sounds like because the planning
committee needs 5 weeks, Erik can have two days. Seem unfair.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Honestly,
the decision process doesn't take much time, aside from organizing a
time that all 10 people can meet across x timezones (a thing unto
itself). Its the community feedback period, giving people enough time to
secure travel approval from their management, loading the sessions into
the actual schedule app, and other print deadlines that force us to
have everything set this far out.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I will
definitely help the ops community in whatever way I can! Do you have
remote attendance set up for the meetup? <br><br></div><blockquote
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Chris</div></div><br><div
class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Feb 27,
2019 at 2:29 PM Kendall Nelson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
target="_blank" href="mailto:kennelson11@gmail.com">kennelson11@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Another- nother thought: You could
take a look at what is submitted by project teams closer to the deadline
and see if your ideas might fit well with theirs since they are looking
for feedback from operators anyway. In the past I have always hoped for
more engagement in the forum sessions I've submitted but only ever had
one or two operators able to join us. <div><br></div><div>-Kendall
(diablo_rojo)</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div
class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:14 AM Kendall
Nelson <<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="mailto:kennelson11@gmail.com">kennelson11@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote
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class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Hello :) <br><br></div><div
dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On
Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:08 AM Jimmy McArthur <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" href="mailto:jimmy@openstack.org">jimmy@openstack.org</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Erik,<br>
<br>
I definitely understand the timeline is tight. One of the reasons that
we publish the schedule so early is to enable community members to plan
their schedule early, especially as
there is more overlap with the main Summit Schedule in Denver.
Additionally, travel approval is often predicated upon someone showing
they're leading/moderating a session. <br>
<br>
Before publishing the schedule, we print a draft Forum schedule for
community feedback and start promotion of the schedule, which we have to
put up on the OpenStack website and apps at 5 weeks out. Extending the
date beyond the 10th won't give the Forum Selection Committee enough
time to complete those tasks. <br>
<br>
I think if the Ops team can come up with some high level discussion
topics, we'll be happy to put some holds in the Forum schedule for
Ops-specific content. diablo_rojo has also offered to attend some of
the Ops sessions remotely as well, if that would help you all shape some
things into actual sessions. <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div
dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>I'm definitely happy to help as
much as I can. If you'll have something set up that I can call into
(zoom, webex, bluejeans, hangout, whatever), I definitely will. I could
also read through etherpads you take notes in and help summarize things
into forum proposals. </div><div><br></div><div>Another thing to note is
that whatever you/we submit, it doesn't have to be award winning :) Its
totally possible to change session descriptions and edit who the
speaker is later.</div><div><br></div><div>Other random thought, I know
Sean McGinnis has attended a lot of the Operators stuff in the past so
maybe he could help narrow things down too? Not to sign him up for more
work, but I know he's written a forum propsal or two in the past ;) </div></div></div><div
dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote
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<br>
I wish I could offer a further extension, but extending it another week
would push too far into the process. <br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jimmy<br>
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href="mailto:emccormick@cirrusseven.com">Erik McCormick</a></div> <div
style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right">
<font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 12:43 PM</span></font></div> </div></div></blockquote></div><div
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><blockquote type="cite" style="border:0px none">
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style="color:rgb(144,154,164);margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px"><div>Jimmy,<br><br>I
won't even
get home until the 10th much less have time to follow up<br>with
anyone. The formation of those sessions often come from<br>discussions
spawned at the meetup and expanded upon later with folks<br>who could
not attend. Could we at least get until 3/17? I understand<br>your
desire to finalize the schedule, but 6 weeks out should be more<br>than
enough time, no?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Erik<br></div></div>
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href="mailto:jimmy@openstack.org">Jimmy McArthur</a></div> <div
style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right">
<font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 12:04 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
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Hi Erik,<br>
<br>
We are able to extend the deadline to 11:59PM Pacific, March 10th. That
should give the weekend to get any additional stragglers in and still
allow the Forum Programming Committee enough time to manage the rest of
the approval and publishing process in time for people's travel needs,
etc...<br>
<br>
For the Ops Meetup specifically, I'd suggest going a bit broader with
the proposals and offering to fill in the blanks later. For example, if
something comes up and everyone agrees it should go to the Forum, just
submit before the end of the Ops session. Kendall or myself would be
happy to help you add details a bit later in the process, should
clarification be necessary. We typically have enough spots for the
majority of proposed Forum sessions. That's not a guarantee, but food
for thought.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jimmy<br>
<span>
</span><br>
<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
style="padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;color:rgb(72,86,100);text-decoration:none"
href="mailto:emccormick@cirrusseven.com">Erik McCormick</a></div> <div
style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right">
<font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 11:31 AM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div
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dir="auto"><div>Would it
be possible to push the deadline back a couple weeks? I expect there to
be a few session proposals that will come out of the Ops Meetup which
ends the day before the deadline. It would be helpful to have a little
time to organize and submit things afterwards.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div
dir="auto">Thanks,</div><div dir="auto">Erik</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>
</div>
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<font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 10:40 AM</span></font></div> </div></div>
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Hi Everyone -<br>
<br>
A quick reminder that we are accepting Forum [1] submissions for the
2019 Open
Infrastructure Summit in Denver [2]. Please submit your ideas through
the Summit CFP tool [3] through March 8th. Don't forget to put your
brainstorming etherpad up on the Denver Forum page [4].
<div><br></div>
<div>This
is not a classic conference track with speakers and presentations. OSF
community members (participants in development teams, operators, working
groups, SIGs, and other interested individuals) discuss the topics they
want to cover and get alignment on and we welcome your participation.
The Forum is your opportunity to help shape the development of future
project releases. More information about the Forum [1].<br>
<div><br></div>
<div>If you have questions or concerns, please reach out to <a
moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="mailto:speakersupport@openstack.org">speakersupport@openstack.org</a>.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jimmy<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum</a></div>
<div>[2] <a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/">https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/</a></div>
<div>[3] <a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/call-for-presentations">https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/call-for-presentations</a></div>
<div>[4] <a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Denver2019">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Denver2019</a></div>
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dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>Hopefully that helps!</div><div><br></div><div>-Kendall
(diablo_rojo) </div></div></div>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div
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dir="ltr">Chris Morgan <<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="mailto:mihalis68@gmail.com">mihalis68@gmail.com</a>></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>-
Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) </div></div></div>
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style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:
right;"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 3:25 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:#909AA4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;"
__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div dir="ltr">I think the
issue is that forum submissions building on what gets discussed in
Berlin can't be expected to be finalised whilst attendees to the berlin
meetup are still traveling. It's not that Erik can't pull these things
together, in fact he's an old hand at this, it's more that this process
isn't reasonable if there's so little time to collate what we learn in
Berlin and feed it forward to Denver. Frankly it sounds like because the
planning committee needs 5 weeks, Erik can have two days. Seem unfair.<div><br></div><div>Chris</div></div><br><br
clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div
class="gmail-m_-2963439173423993960gmail_signature" dir="ltr">Chris
Morgan <<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:kennelson11@gmail.com"
style="color:#485664
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!important;">Kendall Nelson</a></div> <div
style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:
right;"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 1:19 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:#909AA4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;"
__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div dir="ltr">Another- nother
thought: You could take a look at what is submitted by project teams
closer to the deadline and see if your ideas might fit well with theirs
since they are looking for feedback from operators anyway. In the past I
have always hoped for more engagement in the forum sessions I've
submitted but only ever had one or two operators able to join us. <div><br></div><div>-Kendall
(diablo_rojo)</div></div><br>
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style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:
right;"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 1:14 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:#909AA4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;"
__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div dir="ltr">Hello :) <br><br><div
class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Feb 27,
2019 at 11:08 AM Jimmy McArthur <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jimmy@openstack.org">jimmy@openstack.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Erik,<br>
<br>
I definitely understand the timeline is tight. One of the reasons that
we publish the schedule so early is to enable community members to plan
their schedule early, especially as
there is more overlap with the main Summit Schedule in Denver.
Additionally, travel approval is often predicated upon someone showing
they're leading/moderating a session. <br>
<br>
Before publishing the schedule, we print a draft Forum schedule for
community feedback and start promotion of the schedule, which we have to
put up on the OpenStack website and apps at 5 weeks out. Extending the
date beyond the 10th won't give the Forum Selection Committee enough
time to complete those tasks. <br>
<br>
I think if the Ops team can come up with some high level discussion
topics, we'll be happy to put some holds in the Forum schedule for
Ops-specific content. diablo_rojo has also offered to attend some of
the Ops sessions remotely as well, if that would help you all shape some
things into actual sessions. <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm
definitely happy to help as much as I can. If you'll have something set
up that I can call into (zoom, webex, bluejeans, hangout, whatever), I
definitely will. I could also read through etherpads you take notes in
and help summarize things into forum proposals. </div><div><br></div><div>Another
thing to note is that whatever you/we submit, it doesn't have to be
award winning :) Its totally possible to change session descriptions and
edit who the speaker is later.</div><div><br></div><div>Other random
thought, I know Sean McGinnis has attended a lot of the Operators stuff
in the past so maybe he could help narrow things down too? Not to sign
him up for more work, but I know he's written a forum propsal or two in
the past ;) </div><div> </div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0
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bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<br>
I wish I could offer a further extension, but extending it another week
would push too far into the process. <br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jimmy<br>
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<font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 12:43 PM</span></font></div> </div></div></blockquote></div><div
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<div class="m_7779679685007412653__pbConvBody"
style="color:#909aa4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px"><div>Jimmy,<br><br>I
won't even
get home until the 10th much less have time to follow up<br>with
anyone. The formation of those sessions often come from<br>discussions
spawned at the meetup and expanded upon later with folks<br>who could
not attend. Could we at least get until 3/17? I understand<br>your
desire to finalize the schedule, but 6 weeks out should be more<br>than
enough time, no?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Erik<br></div></div></blockquote></div><div
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<font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 12:04 PM</span></font></div> </div></div></blockquote></div><div
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Hi Erik,<br>
<br>
We are able to extend the deadline to 11:59PM Pacific, March 10th. That
should give the weekend to get any additional stragglers in and still
allow the Forum Programming Committee enough time to manage the rest of
the approval and publishing process in time for people's travel needs,
etc...<br>
<br>
For the Ops Meetup specifically, I'd suggest going a bit broader with
the proposals and offering to fill in the blanks later. For example, if
something comes up and everyone agrees it should go to the Forum, just
submit before the end of the Ops session. Kendall or myself would be
happy to help you add details a bit later in the process, should
clarification be necessary. We typically have enough spots for the
majority of proposed Forum sessions. That's not a guarantee, but food
for thought.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jimmy<br>
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<font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 11:31 AM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div class="m_7779679685007412653__pbConvBody"
style="color:#909aa4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px"><div dir="auto"><div>Would
it
be possible to push the deadline back a couple weeks? I expect there to
be a few session proposals that will come out of the Ops Meetup which
ends the day before the deadline. It would be helpful to have a little
time to organize and submit things afterwards.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div
dir="auto">Thanks,</div><div dir="auto">Erik</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>
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<font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">February
27, 2019 at 10:40 AM</span></font></div> </div></div>
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Hi Everyone -<br>
<br>
A quick reminder that we are accepting Forum [1] submissions for the
2019 Open
Infrastructure Summit in Denver [2]. Please submit your ideas through
the Summit CFP tool [3] through March 8th. Don't forget to put your
brainstorming etherpad up on the Denver Forum page [4].
<div><br></div>
<div>This
is not a classic conference track with speakers and presentations. OSF
community members (participants in development teams, operators, working
groups, SIGs, and other interested individuals) discuss the topics they
want to cover and get alignment on and we welcome your participation.
The Forum is your opportunity to help shape the development of future
project releases. More information about the Forum [1].<br>
<div><br></div>
<div>If you have questions or concerns, please reach out to <a
moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="mailto:speakersupport@openstack.org">speakersupport@openstack.org</a>.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jimmy<br>
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<div>[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum</a></div>
<div>[2] <a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/">https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/</a></div>
<div>[3] <a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/call-for-presentations">https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/call-for-presentations</a></div>
<div>[4] <a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Denver2019">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Denver2019</a></div>
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<br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hopefully
that helps!</div><div><br></div><div>-Kendall (diablo_rojo) </div></div></div>
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