There are stories created for other similar cleanup or like activities; why not for changes in support of opensuse (this example)? https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2006508 - Move specfiles from OBS to Gerri https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2006425 - Code cleanup in fault component Inconsistency breads complacency ... Eric.
-----Original Message----- From: Saul Wold [mailto:sgw@linux.intel.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 2:08 PM To: starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Please Review: Requirements for commit messages
On 9/13/19 10:27 AM, MacDonald, Eric wrote:
There seem to be a lot of small changes that are being posted without quality or traceable reasoning and I feel that creating a SB and tasks for like changes helps reviewers and project/content managers.
The group of recent changes have been talked about before as part of the over all improvements in order to address various aspects of working with openSUSE and warning that are generated from that build.
These are mostly small changes as you point out and are understandable.
Sau!
-----Original Message----- From: Jones, Bruce E [mailto:bruce.e.jones@intel.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 12:54 PM To: Eslimi, Dariush; MacDonald, Eric; Khalil, Ghada; Saul Wold; starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io Subject: RE: [Starlingx-discuss] Please Review: Requirements for commit messages Importance: High
It's just an example, Dariush, of an internal change that would not impact an end user. Insert your own example if needed. :)
Commit messages can provide plenty of context. If they are written well, of course, which the reviewers can verify / enforce.
I'm not opposed to using SB and LP to document changes. But I don't think it's necessary to mandate it for every single change.
brucej
-----Original Message----- From: Eslimi, Dariush [mailto:Dariush.Eslimi@windriver.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 8:53 AM To: Jones, Bruce E <bruce.e.jones@intel.com>; MacDonald, Eric <Eric.MacDonald@windriver.com>; Khalil, Ghada <Ghada.Khalil@windriver.com>; Saul Wold <sgw@linux.intel.com>; starlingx- discuss@lists.starlingx.io Subject: RE: [Starlingx-discuss] Please Review: Requirements for commit messages
I would argue that is very bad example, why would a single project all of sudden wants to switch to Python3? Is this part of release goal to start using Python 3? Is this priority for the release?
Small change need more context so code reviewers know why such a change is proposed.
Dariush
-----Original Message----- From: Jones, Bruce E [mailto:bruce.e.jones@intel.com] Sent: September-13-19 11:37 AM To: MacDonald, Eric <Eric.MacDonald@windriver.com>; Khalil, Ghada <Ghada.Khalil@windriver.com>; Saul Wold <sgw@linux.intel.com>; starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Please Review: Requirements for commit messages
-1. Commit messages are update reasons and just as traceable.
Do we really need a SB entry for changes like "replace #!/usr/bin/python with #!/usr/bin/python3"?
bruej
-----Original Message----- From: MacDonald, Eric [mailto:Eric.MacDonald@windriver.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 8:30 AM To: Khalil, Ghada <Ghada.Khalil@windriver.com>; Saul Wold <sgw@linux.intel.com>; starlingx- discuss@lists.starlingx.io Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Please Review: Requirements for commit messages
+2 Ghada's point. I'd like to avoid the slippery slope no update reason or traceability can lead to.
-----Original Message----- From: Khalil, Ghada [mailto:Ghada.Khalil@windriver.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 11:11 AM To: Saul Wold; starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Please Review: Requirements for commit messages
Hi Saul, This was discussed previously and, as a community, we agreed that this is the guideline for starlingx submissions
From https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StarlingX/CodeSubmissionGuidelines Link your review to a StoryBoard Story or Launchpad Bug For traceability, always link your code change to a story or bug. The story/bug will give reviewers context for the code changes. This will also be used to help determine the relative priority of the code changes.
I personally don't see a big barrier to creating a generic storyboard for spelling or cleanup tasks. Happy to hear from others their opinion. I'm not terribly concerned about a few small updates without a link, but we should all aim to favor traceability (and document the purpose for the changes we're making).
Regards, Ghada
-----Original Message----- From: Saul Wold [mailto:sgw@linux.intel.com] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 5:53 PM To: starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io Subject: [Starlingx-discuss] Please Review: Requirements for commit messages
StarlingX Folks:
I would like to clarify the requirement or lack there of for having Bugs or Stories in commit messages. There are patches that are clearly addressing bug fixes and those should have a Closes-Bug; there are commits that are clearly implementing features that should have the Story/Task tags.
There are also commits that fall in between, they are not directly related to a given feature or have a bug filed, they are typically smaller and are fairly self-documenting or have good commit messages explaining why the change is needed, not just what the change does.
Ultimately Closes-Bugs and Story tags will help reviewers and other get the infomration needed to create release notes, but we don't need to document every change like spelling, indentation, fixing compiler warnings in Release notes.
I believe that we should have some flexibility in allowing for changes without related launchpad or story connections. This can help reduce the barrier to entry for small changes that community members may want to propose.
Thoughts?
Sau!
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