[Starlingx-discuss] Multi OS Meeting Notes & Initial Centos-8 Alternatives
StarlingX Community: As has been announced Long Term Support for CentOS-8 will be going away in December of 2021 (1 year away). CentOS-Stream will be the "replacement", but has some challenges due to the update policy and possible patching of CVEs in packages. Listed below are additional options, please provide feedback so we can start discussing options here and during the next set of calls. I would like to hear if there are ideas I am missing or other proposals. Thanks Sau! MultiOS Team Meeting - 12/22/2020 - meta-starlingx - No update at this point. - Starting the CentOS-8 Alternatives discussion - CentOS-8 is not getting long term support (stops in Dec 2021) - CentOS-7 Short - medium term (CVEs 2024) - Question about support for new hardware? - RHEL Alternatives - Cloudlinux / RockyLinux - CentOS-Stream may not be stable enought - What's the CVE support commitment for older packages - Debian / Ubuntu - Technical challenges with rpm->deb packaging - Ubuntu has known branding / licenses issues - OpenEmbedded / Yocto Project meta-startlingx - Work in progress already using StarlingX-3.0 - SuSE / OpenSuse - RPM based - Make StarlingX platform agnostic - Currently there is a custom kernel and userspace - Need to get rid of custom userspace. - Oracle Linux -- Sau!
Saul, I think we have several options here: 1) Continue to support the current hybrid CentOS7/8 that we have today 2) Accelerate the Open Embedded effort 3) Support some other RPM-based OS (e.g. SUSE) Based on previous work in this space, I don't think making StarlingX OS independent is realistic, so I don't include it in the list. Both 2) and 3) above are a lot of work. What issues might we have with option 1)? brucej -----Original Message----- From: Saul Wold <Saul.Wold@windriver.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:06 AM To: starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io Subject: [Starlingx-discuss] Multi OS Meeting Notes & Initial Centos-8 Alternatives StarlingX Community: As has been announced Long Term Support for CentOS-8 will be going away in December of 2021 (1 year away). CentOS-Stream will be the "replacement", but has some challenges due to the update policy and possible patching of CVEs in packages. Listed below are additional options, please provide feedback so we can start discussing options here and during the next set of calls. I would like to hear if there are ideas I am missing or other proposals. Thanks Sau! MultiOS Team Meeting - 12/22/2020 - meta-starlingx - No update at this point. - Starting the CentOS-8 Alternatives discussion - CentOS-8 is not getting long term support (stops in Dec 2021) - CentOS-7 Short - medium term (CVEs 2024) - Question about support for new hardware? - RHEL Alternatives - Cloudlinux / RockyLinux - CentOS-Stream may not be stable enought - What's the CVE support commitment for older packages - Debian / Ubuntu - Technical challenges with rpm->deb packaging - Ubuntu has known branding / licenses issues - OpenEmbedded / Yocto Project meta-startlingx - Work in progress already using StarlingX-3.0 - SuSE / OpenSuse - RPM based - Make StarlingX platform agnostic - Currently there is a custom kernel and userspace - Need to get rid of custom userspace. - Oracle Linux -- Sau! _______________________________________________ Starlingx-discuss mailing list Starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io http://lists.starlingx.io/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/starlingx-discuss
HI Bruce, We are going to move this to the Distro Meeting tomorrow (Wednesday) before the the community meeting. See some additional thoughts below. On 1/4/21 4:34 PM, Jones, Bruce E wrote:
Saul, I think we have several options here:
1) Continue to support the current hybrid CentOS7/8 that we have today I think this will work short term, but we will have to manage any CVEs in the 4.18 kernel outside of what CentOS-7, which we know will be EOL'ed in 2024, so we will need a solution in the next year.
2) Accelerate the Open Embedded effort
This would be a good thing to continue to consider this option, the challenge here is the perception of the OE base OS.
3) Support some other RPM-based OS (e.g. SUSE)
RHEL/CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu are the major OSes that are used in Data Centers, I think we need to consider some of that kind of information in our considerations. While SUSE/OpenSUSE does have some market share in Europe its much less than the others.
Based on previous work in this space, I don't think making StarlingX OS independent is realistic, so I don't include it in the list.
Yeah, I had included it for completeness
Both 2) and 3) above are a lot of work.
What issues might we have with option 1)?
I think option 1 is good for the short term, but we need to consider the longer term solution. Sau!
brucej
-----Original Message----- From: Saul Wold <Saul.Wold@windriver.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:06 AM To: starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io Subject: [Starlingx-discuss] Multi OS Meeting Notes & Initial Centos-8 Alternatives
StarlingX Community:
As has been announced Long Term Support for CentOS-8 will be going away in December of 2021 (1 year away). CentOS-Stream will be the "replacement", but has some challenges due to the update policy and possible patching of CVEs in packages.
Listed below are additional options, please provide feedback so we can start discussing options here and during the next set of calls.
I would like to hear if there are ideas I am missing or other proposals.
Thanks Sau!
MultiOS Team Meeting - 12/22/2020 - meta-starlingx - No update at this point. - Starting the CentOS-8 Alternatives discussion - CentOS-8 is not getting long term support (stops in Dec 2021) - CentOS-7 Short - medium term (CVEs 2024) - Question about support for new hardware? - RHEL Alternatives - Cloudlinux / RockyLinux - CentOS-Stream may not be stable enought - What's the CVE support commitment for older packages - Debian / Ubuntu - Technical challenges with rpm->deb packaging - Ubuntu has known branding / licenses issues - OpenEmbedded / Yocto Project meta-startlingx - Work in progress already using StarlingX-3.0 - SuSE / OpenSuse - RPM based - Make StarlingX platform agnostic - Currently there is a custom kernel and userspace - Need to get rid of custom userspace. - Oracle Linux
-- Sau!
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Jones, Bruce E
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Saul Wold