Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Community Communication Channels - VOTE NEEDED
Hi StarlingX Community, Thank you to everyone who already voted. For those who haven’t had the chance yet, it is a friendly reminder to please share your vote about moving to Matrix, to use it as the official chat tool for community communications. Please respond with ‘+1’, if you are in support, or share your concerns, if there is any. Please hit “reply all” to keep the mailing list in the thread with your response. I will share the results of the vote early next week, and propose next steps for the TSC to approve. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best Regards, Ildikó ——— Ildikó Váncsa Director of Community Open Infrastructure Foundation
On Jul 17, 2023, at 12:38, Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@windriver.com> wrote:
+1, willing to give it a try.
On 7/12/2023 5:14 PM, Ildiko Vancsa wrote:
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Hi,
Thank you all for the feedback so far!
I haven’t received any objections against the option to start using Matrix as a chat tool for the StarlingX community. People had questions on the Community Call about the tool today, so I collected some useful information to help exploring it:
- As a reminder, you can find out more about the tool here: https://matrix.org - There are different options to use as a browser or desktop client. Many of them are also available on smartphones. + I’m using Element - https://element.io + Some other options include ~ Weechat - https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix ~ SchildiChat - https://schildi.chat/ ~ FluffyChat - https://fluffychat.im/
- The #starlingX IRC channel is also available through Matrix - https://matrix.to/#/!XDOJNehPiaWKvYGWVD:matrix.org?via=matrix.org ~ You will need to create an account first ~ There is documentation available in the Zuul community’s docs about how to register - https://zuul-ci.org/docs/zuul/latest/howtos/matrix.html#create-an-account
During the Community Call, it also came up that it would be great to agree on how we would like to utilize a chat tool. For instance, to aovid having too many channels, etc. The current proposal to the Matrix setup is the following:
- Have multiple chat rooms available for community communication: + starlingx-general room - topics that are relevant to the whole community + StarlingX project team channels ~ topics that are relevant to a project team ~ ie: starlingx-build, starlingx-containers, etc + Optional channel ideas - specific topic areas that are outside of the existing project teams ~ starlingx-newcomers ~ starlingx-troubleshooting
__ If you are in support to use Matrix as the chat tool for StarlingX moving forward, please reply to this email with ‘+1’.__
Please let me know if you have any questions, or if you need help with setting up Matrix.
Best Regards, Ildikó
———
Ildikó Váncsa Director of Community Open Infrastructure Foundation
On Jul 4, 2023, at 21:42, open infra <openinfradn@gmail.com> wrote:
CentOS, TDF/LibreOffice, and Libre Graphics use Libra Chat and Scala, and many others use discord. Fedora and many others use metrix. I think its better switch to metrix as as the OpenDev Collaboratory has a metrix server (.as Jeremy Stanley mentioned in his reply).
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 11:34 PM Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko@openinfra.dev> wrote: Hi StarlingX Community,
I’m reaching out to you about a recurring topic that came up during the PTG last week again.
While the community is actively using the mailing list, it is not always the best platform, as it doesn’t allow for more synchronous chat. Contributors at the event had a growing interest in finding a way to provide the opportunity for more synchronous communication to capture the project teams’ chatters, and enable newcomers to reach out and start to participate.
Challenges: * Tooling: People raised that while it is an open protocol, IRC still doesn’t feel inclusive due to its simplicity. * Format: The current one-channel setup doesn’t feel efficient and comfortable, since people need to address everyone in the channel with every topic they have a question or comment about.
Proposal to move forward: * Tooling: The preferred tool in last week’s conversation was Matrix - https://matrix.org - It is an open tool, which ensures continued access to the platform and its features - It is more modern than IRC
* Format: The idea came up to create multiple channels for the StarlingX project - We can keep the all-community channel - We can create channels for each project team, that are more topic specific - We also have the option to create a channel for newcomers, which could include troubleshooting type of conversations as well
In order to identify next steps, please share your feedback about the proposal above. Ie: What do you think about Matrix? Would you be more comfortable using a chat tool with the more fine grained configuration of having multiple channels?
Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó
———
Ildikó Váncsa Director of Community Open Infrastructure Foundation
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+1 Abhishek Jaiswal Member of Technical Staff M/ +91 7799126262 -----Original Message----- From: Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko@openstack.org> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 3:15 AM To: StarlingX ML <starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io> Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Community Communication Channels - VOTE NEEDED CAUTION: This email comes from a non Wind River email account! Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi StarlingX Community, Thank you to everyone who already voted. For those who haven’t had the chance yet, it is a friendly reminder to please share your vote about moving to Matrix, to use it as the official chat tool for community communications. Please respond with ‘+1’, if you are in support, or share your concerns, if there is any. Please hit “reply all” to keep the mailing list in the thread with your response. I will share the results of the vote early next week, and propose next steps for the TSC to approve. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best Regards, Ildikó ——— Ildikó Váncsa Director of Community Open Infrastructure Foundation
On Jul 17, 2023, at 12:38, Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@windriver.com> wrote:
+1, willing to give it a try.
On 7/12/2023 5:14 PM, Ildiko Vancsa wrote:
CAUTION: This email comes from a non Wind River email account! Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
Hi,
Thank you all for the feedback so far!
I haven’t received any objections against the option to start using Matrix as a chat tool for the StarlingX community. People had questions on the Community Call about the tool today, so I collected some useful information to help exploring it:
- As a reminder, you can find out more about the tool here: https://matrix.org - There are different options to use as a browser or desktop client. Many of them are also available on smartphones. + I’m using Element - https://element.io + Some other options include ~ Weechat - https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix ~ SchildiChat - https://schildi.chat/ ~ FluffyChat - https://fluffychat.im/
- The #starlingX IRC channel is also available through Matrix - https://matrix.to/#/!XDOJNehPiaWKvYGWVD:matrix.org?via=matrix.org ~ You will need to create an account first ~ There is documentation available in the Zuul community’s docs about how to register - https://zuul-ci.org/docs/zuul/latest/howtos/matrix.html#create-an-account
During the Community Call, it also came up that it would be great to agree on how we would like to utilize a chat tool. For instance, to aovid having too many channels, etc. The current proposal to the Matrix setup is the following:
- Have multiple chat rooms available for community communication: + starlingx-general room - topics that are relevant to the whole community + StarlingX project team channels ~ topics that are relevant to a project team ~ ie: starlingx-build, starlingx-containers, etc + Optional channel ideas - specific topic areas that are outside of the existing project teams ~ starlingx-newcomers ~ starlingx-troubleshooting
__ If you are in support to use Matrix as the chat tool for StarlingX moving forward, please reply to this email with ‘+1’.__
Please let me know if you have any questions, or if you need help with setting up Matrix.
Best Regards, Ildikó
———
Ildikó Váncsa Director of Community Open Infrastructure Foundation
On Jul 4, 2023, at 21:42, open infra <openinfradn@gmail.com> wrote:
CentOS, TDF/LibreOffice, and Libre Graphics use Libra Chat and Scala, and many others use discord. Fedora and many others use metrix. I think its better switch to metrix as as the OpenDev Collaboratory has a metrix server (.as Jeremy Stanley mentioned in his reply).
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 11:34 PM Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko@openinfra.dev> wrote: Hi StarlingX Community,
I’m reaching out to you about a recurring topic that came up during the PTG last week again.
While the community is actively using the mailing list, it is not always the best platform, as it doesn’t allow for more synchronous chat. Contributors at the event had a growing interest in finding a way to provide the opportunity for more synchronous communication to capture the project teams’ chatters, and enable newcomers to reach out and start to participate.
Challenges: * Tooling: People raised that while it is an open protocol, IRC still doesn’t feel inclusive due to its simplicity. * Format: The current one-channel setup doesn’t feel efficient and comfortable, since people need to address everyone in the channel with every topic they have a question or comment about.
Proposal to move forward: * Tooling: The preferred tool in last week’s conversation was Matrix - https://matrix.org - It is an open tool, which ensures continued access to the platform and its features - It is more modern than IRC
* Format: The idea came up to create multiple channels for the StarlingX project - We can keep the all-community channel - We can create channels for each project team, that are more topic specific - We also have the option to create a channel for newcomers, which could include troubleshooting type of conversations as well
In order to identify next steps, please share your feedback about the proposal above. Ie: What do you think about Matrix? Would you be more comfortable using a chat tool with the more fine grained configuration of having multiple channels?
Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó
———
Ildikó Váncsa Director of Community Open Infrastructure Foundation
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+1 for matrix -----Original Message----- From: Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko@openstack.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 5:45 PM To: StarlingX ML <starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io> Subject: Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Community Communication Channels - VOTE NEEDED CAUTION: This email comes from a non Wind River email account! Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi StarlingX Community, Thank you to everyone who already voted. For those who haven’t had the chance yet, it is a friendly reminder to please share your vote about moving to Matrix, to use it as the official chat tool for community communications. Please respond with ‘+1’, if you are in support, or share your concerns, if there is any. Please hit “reply all” to keep the mailing list in the thread with your response. I will share the results of the vote early next week, and propose next steps for the TSC to approve. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best Regards, Ildikó ——— Ildikó Váncsa Director of Community Open Infrastructure Foundation
On Jul 17, 2023, at 12:38, Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@windriver.com> wrote:
+1, willing to give it a try.
On 7/12/2023 5:14 PM, Ildiko Vancsa wrote:
CAUTION: This email comes from a non Wind River email account! Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
Hi,
Thank you all for the feedback so far!
I haven’t received any objections against the option to start using Matrix as a chat tool for the StarlingX community. People had questions on the Community Call about the tool today, so I collected some useful information to help exploring it:
- As a reminder, you can find out more about the tool here: https://matrix.org - There are different options to use as a browser or desktop client. Many of them are also available on smartphones. + I’m using Element - https://element.io + Some other options include ~ Weechat - https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix ~ SchildiChat - https://schildi.chat/ ~ FluffyChat - https://fluffychat.im/
- The #starlingX IRC channel is also available through Matrix - https://matrix.to/#/!XDOJNehPiaWKvYGWVD:matrix.org?via=matrix.org ~ You will need to create an account first ~ There is documentation available in the Zuul community’s docs about how to register - https://zuul-ci.org/docs/zuul/latest/howtos/matrix.html#create-an-account
During the Community Call, it also came up that it would be great to agree on how we would like to utilize a chat tool. For instance, to aovid having too many channels, etc. The current proposal to the Matrix setup is the following:
- Have multiple chat rooms available for community communication: + starlingx-general room - topics that are relevant to the whole community + StarlingX project team channels ~ topics that are relevant to a project team ~ ie: starlingx-build, starlingx-containers, etc + Optional channel ideas - specific topic areas that are outside of the existing project teams ~ starlingx-newcomers ~ starlingx-troubleshooting
__ If you are in support to use Matrix as the chat tool for StarlingX moving forward, please reply to this email with ‘+1’.__
Please let me know if you have any questions, or if you need help with setting up Matrix.
Best Regards, Ildikó
———
Ildikó Váncsa Director of Community Open Infrastructure Foundation
On Jul 4, 2023, at 21:42, open infra <openinfradn@gmail.com> wrote:
CentOS, TDF/LibreOffice, and Libre Graphics use Libra Chat and Scala, and many others use discord. Fedora and many others use metrix. I think its better switch to metrix as as the OpenDev Collaboratory has a metrix server (.as Jeremy Stanley mentioned in his reply).
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 11:34 PM Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko@openinfra.dev> wrote: Hi StarlingX Community,
I’m reaching out to you about a recurring topic that came up during the PTG last week again.
While the community is actively using the mailing list, it is not always the best platform, as it doesn’t allow for more synchronous chat. Contributors at the event had a growing interest in finding a way to provide the opportunity for more synchronous communication to capture the project teams’ chatters, and enable newcomers to reach out and start to participate.
Challenges: * Tooling: People raised that while it is an open protocol, IRC still doesn’t feel inclusive due to its simplicity. * Format: The current one-channel setup doesn’t feel efficient and comfortable, since people need to address everyone in the channel with every topic they have a question or comment about.
Proposal to move forward: * Tooling: The preferred tool in last week’s conversation was Matrix - https://matrix.org - It is an open tool, which ensures continued access to the platform and its features - It is more modern than IRC
* Format: The idea came up to create multiple channels for the StarlingX project - We can keep the all-community channel - We can create channels for each project team, that are more topic specific - We also have the option to create a channel for newcomers, which could include troubleshooting type of conversations as well
In order to identify next steps, please share your feedback about the proposal above. Ie: What do you think about Matrix? Would you be more comfortable using a chat tool with the more fine grained configuration of having multiple channels?
Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó
———
Ildikó Váncsa Director of Community Open Infrastructure Foundation
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Ildiko Vancsa
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Jaiswal, Abhishek
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Waines, Greg