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The real-time kernel causes challenges, as it limits the enabled kernel-options by default</span><br class="ContentPasted1">
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- There are multiple ways forward</span><br class="ContentPasted1">
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+ Enable more kernel options by default. Is that really possible/feasible?</span><br class="ContentPasted1">
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= i.e. Standard distributions like Ubuntu has everything enabled</span><br class="ContentPasted1">
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+ Consider a mechanism to swap out the kernel —> These points back to earlier discussions about the modularity of the StarlingX platform</span><br>
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This would be slightly difficult to do if it is to swap between real-time kernel vs standard kernel.</span></span></div>
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it is related to swapping out the same type of kernel, just different funcationliaties. live patching or kernel modules upgrades may be a possibility. </span></span></div>
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What do you all think? Who in the community would be interested in moderating the conversation?</span></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline ContentPasted2">
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Given that these topics are closely related to the OS/Multi-OS community, I and Mark A should help moderate the conversation. Please let me know when the next discussion will be scheduled. </div>
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Hope this helps and thanks,</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 20, 2023 2:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> StarlingX ML <starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Starlingx-discuss] Kernel and HW compatibility discussion at the vPTG</font>
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Hi,<br>
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I’m reaching out to follow up on a topic that came up during the Community Call last week (Feb 15).<br>
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The main challenge that the group on the call discussed was around the limited set of supported HW by the StarlingX platform.<br>
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We touched on two angles:<br>
* How does someone know exactly what HW is supported by the platform?<br>
- Is the list in the documentation comprehensive? Can it be?<br>
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* Is it possible to achieve better compatibility and support a wider range of HW options?<br>
- What are the main factors of the limited set of supported HW types?<br>
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Possible solutions:<br>
* The community needs a wider pool of HW varieties to test on<br>
- Third-party testing?<br>
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* The real-time kernel causes challenges, as it limits the enabled kernel-options by default<br>
- There are multiple ways forward<br>
+ Enable more kernel options by default. Is that really possible/feasible?<br>
= i.e. Standard distributions like Ubuntu has everything enabled<br>
+ Consider a mechanism to swap out the kernel —> This points back to earlier discussions about the modularity of the StarlingX platform<br>
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The above questions and solution ideas all point towards a bigger conversation. The above directions each require time and focus from the community to achieve.<br>
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In order get into the details of the problem as well as options and preferred solutions forward, we suggested to continue the conversation on the virtual PTG in march.<br>
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What do you all think? Who in the community would be interested in moderating the conversation?<br>
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Thanks and Best Regards,<br>
Ildikó<br>
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Ildikó Váncsa<br>
Senior Manager, Community & Ecosystem<br>
Open Infrastructure Foundation<br>
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