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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Manifest decoupling: StarlingX and stx-openstack application</span>
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<b>To:</b> StarlingX ML <<a href="mailto:starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io">starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Starlingx-discuss] Manifest decoupling: StarlingX and stx-openstack application</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="xxxxcontentpasted5"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I would like to bring to this mailing list a discussion we are having about splitting the stx-openstack application repositories from the main starlingx manifest
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">In order to decouple the OpenStack Clients currently shared between platform and application we are suggesting to decouple the platform and application builds in separate manifests (e.g. starlingx/manifest/default.xml
and starlingx/manifest/stx-openstack.xml).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I understand that the new manifest needs to be created and build jobs configured properly and tested, I can also create the Stories for mapping this work later.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">BENEFITS: we achieve the freedom of building different versions of the same packages (i.e. openstack clients) that are shared between the platform and the application.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">The end goal would be something like:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Remain as is (default manifest aligns to upstream Debian version => Victoria)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Only keep the services needed by the platform. Some existing patches might have been brought forward to support stx-openstack, so we should re-evaluate as part of this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Those would still be built as part of STX Platform builds, i.e. starlingx/manifest/default.xml<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Relocate (stx-openstack app independently aligns to version of choice: Victoria [current] => Antelope [future])<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">stx/upstream openstack/python-keystoneclient copy-to stx/openstack-armada-app/upstream/openstack/python-keystoneclient<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">stx/upstream openstack/python-horizon copy-to stx/openstack-armada-app/upstream/openstack/python-horizon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">stx/upstream openstack/python-openstackclient copy-to stx/openstack-armada-app/upstream/openstack/python-openstackclient<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">stx/upstream openstack/openstack-pkg-tools move-to stx/openstack-armada-app/upstream/openstack/openstack-pkg-tools<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">stx/upstream openstack/openstack-ras move-to stx/openstack-armada-app/upstream/openstack/openstack-ras<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">stx/upstream openstack/python-aodhclient move-to stx/openstack-armada-app/upstream/openstack/python-aodhclient<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">stx/upstream openstack/python-heatclient move-to stx/openstack-armada-app/upstream/openstack/python-heatclient<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">stx/upstream openstack/python-keystoneclient move-to stx/openstack-armada-app/upstream/openstack/python-keystoneclient<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">stx/upstream openstack/python-neutronclient move-to stx/openstack-armada-app/upstream/openstack/python-neutronclient<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">stx/upstream openstack/python-novaclient move-to stx/openstack-armada-app/upstream/openstack/python-novaclient<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">stx/upstream openstack/python-openstacksdk move-to stx/openstack-armada-app/upstream/openstack/python-openstacksdk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">stx/upstream openstack/python-osc-lib move-to stx/openstack-armada-app/upstream/openstack/python-osc-lib<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">The OpenStack Distro Team will create a new directory under stx/openstack-armada-app to store all application needed packages.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">This will include clients and the stx-openstack Docker images we build only for the application. This way, on stx-openstack build we can build the same packages (name) but using different versions/source
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