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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> De Ataides Barreto, Lucas <<a href="mailto:Lucas.DeAtaidesBarreto@windriver.com">Lucas.DeAtaidesBarreto@windriver.com</a>><br>
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<b>To:</b> StarlingX ML <<a href="mailto:starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io">starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Starlingx-discuss] Manifest decoupling: StarlingX and stx-openstack application</span>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="x_xxxxcontentpasted5"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">I would like to bring to this mailing list a discussion we are having about splitting the stx-openstack application repositories from the main starlingx manifest
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">In order to decouple the OpenStack Clients currently shared between platform and application we are suggesting to decouple the platform and application builds in separate manifests (e.g. starlingx/manifest/default.xml
and starlingx/manifest/stx-openstack.xml).</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">I understand that the new manifest needs to be created and build jobs configured properly and tested, I can also create the Stories for mapping this work later.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">BENEFITS: we achieve the freedom of building different versions of the same packages (i.e. openstack clients) that are shared between the platform and the application.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Only keep the services needed by the platform. Some existing patches might have been brought forward to support stx-openstack, so we should re-evaluate as part of this.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Those would still be built as part of STX Platform builds, i.e. starlingx/manifest/default.xml</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Relocate (stx-openstack app independently aligns to version of choice: Victoria [current] => Antelope [future])</span></p>
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