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Hi Greg,<br>
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Yes, that's the example for aio-simplex specifically.  I would have referred to the parent page which links to each deployment option:<br>
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Each of the listed deployment options under <span style="display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="ContentPasted2">"Install StarlingX Kubernetes in a virtual environment"</span> has the instruction for libvirt method.<br>
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Yes, I am saying that I am intending that the changes should not impact anything that a user would do currently.  I want to add options to better use a host's resources for disk, memory and CPU without affecting the current examples and default behaviour presented
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<b>Sent:</b> 10 July 2023 9:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Thebeau, Michel <Michel.Thebeau@windriver.com>; starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io <starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Balaraj, Juanita <Juanita.Balaraj@windriver.com>; Stone, Ronald <Ronald.Stone@windriver.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Intentions toward enhancements for Starlingx Libvirt deployment method host utilization</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Where is the ‘libvirt virtual deployment method’ documented under docs.starlingx.io ?</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Is it here ?  <a href="https://docs.starlingx.io/deploy_install_guides/release/virtual/aio_simplex_environ.html">
https://docs.starlingx.io/deploy_install_guides/release/virtual/aio_simplex_environ.html</a></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">( and corresponding spots for other configs )</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">So you’re saying your changes won’t impact the current documentation of the ‘libvirt virtual deployment method’ ?</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Thebeau, Michel <Michel.Thebeau@windriver.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 10, 2023 8:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Waines, Greg <Greg.Waines@windriver.com>; starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Balaraj, Juanita <Juanita.Balaraj@windriver.com>; Stone, Ronald <Ronald.Stone@windriver.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Intentions toward enhancements for Starlingx Libvirt deployment method host utilization</p>
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Thanks for letting me know.<br>
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I was not aware that the documents were out-of-sync and that the examples under virtual deployment were out-of-date.  Especially: I had not noticed any out-of-date instruction while using the examples from virtual section.<br>
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To answer your first question: I have an intention of not impacting the canonical examples and current usage/use-case.  In this way I did not anticipate documentation changes.  I especially intend that if one were using the libvirt deployment method as it is
 presented today, then the changes I intend would have no impact on that usage.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="x_contentpasted0"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black; background:white">I am not prepared to accept the assignment this morning.  </span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">I can, for example, contribute
 to ensuring that a merging of the documents will continue to accurately reflect the libvirt virtual deployment method - either by proposing changes or reviewing the changes.  Please feel free to bring me into the conversation.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Waines, Greg <<a href="mailto:Greg.Waines@windriver.com">Greg.Waines@windriver.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 July 2023 8:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Thebeau, Michel <<a href="mailto:Michel.Thebeau@windriver.com">Michel.Thebeau@windriver.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io">starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io</a> <<a href="mailto:starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io">starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Balaraj, Juanita <<a href="mailto:Juanita.Balaraj@windriver.com">Juanita.Balaraj@windriver.com</a>>; Stone, Ronald <<a href="mailto:Ronald.Stone@windriver.com">Ronald.Stone@windriver.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Intentions toward enhancements for Starlingx Libvirt deployment method host utilization</span>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal">Hey Mich,</p>
<p class="x_xmsonormal">Thanksfor looking at this.</p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal">Do you intent to update the virtual install guides as well ? … as part of this work ?</p>
<p class="x_xmsonormal">e.g.   <a href="https://docs.starlingx.io/deploy_install_guides/release/virtual/aio_simplex_install_kubernetes.html">
https://docs.starlingx.io/deploy_install_guides/release/virtual/aio_simplex_install_kubernetes.html</a></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal">A heads up if you do … (I think I’ve mentioned this a couple of times)</p>
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… we have not had time to look at this.</li><li class="x_xmsolistparagraph" style="margin-left:0in"> </li><li class="x_xmsolistparagraph" style="margin-left:0in">If you are interested in doing this … let me, Juanita and Ron know and we can provide some guidance here.</li></ul>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal">Greg.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io">starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Starlingx-discuss] Intentions toward enhancements for Starlingx Libvirt deployment method host utilization</p>
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I prepared the following description of enhancements I intend towards the libvirt virtual deployment method.  Please let me know I should follow a particular procedure.  Otherwise I intend to create a story in storyboard.</span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Mitch.<br>
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Starlingx Libvirt deployment method host utilization enhancements </span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">References:</span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">"Install StarlingX Kubernetes in a virtual environment" -
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.starlingx.io/deploy_install_guides/release/index-install-r7-8966076f0e81.html*index-install-r7-8966076f0e81__;Iw!!AjveYdw8EvQ!Z4_8uAlE2hflEwoj6PLS-fkscNHofrzze0Z8TcwKqUWt8eZuvXR2BYDbfdQ1NRxwAPidwaXpiTs6mEaYmZdFwN3y3g0pfSBm$">
https://docs.starlingx.io/deploy_install_guides/release/index-install-r7-8966076f0e81.html#index-install-r7-8966076f0e81</a></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Libvirt deployment method in starlingx/tools -
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https://opendev.org/starlingx/tools/src/branch/master/deployment/libvirt</a></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Libvirt deployment method moved this week to starlingx/virtual-deployment -
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https://opendev.org/starlingx/virtual-deployment/src/branch/master/libvirt</a></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black"> - Maintain and extend the use of overridable variable definitions for the attributes of a lab.</span></p>
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destroy_configuration.sh</a>, destroy_network.sh".</span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Establish a precedent for a configuration file used to override the default attributes.  Refer to the README.rst "Overview" section which lists environment variables CONTROLLER, WORKER, BRIDGE_INTERFACE,
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Provide a default configuration file that will reset the variables to defaults as they currently exist within the deployment/libvirt scripts, including:</span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Provide an example configuration file that sets a lab's attributes deviating from the default.  Especially, the default and the example should co-exist.  Consider honouring the "mad" example
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Motivation: allow lab specific attributes for the host's resources and provide tools to inspect those resources within the contexts of the virtual labs and/or overall</span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Note: Ensure that all changes are providing defaults that are equivalent to the existing implementation.</span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">  Add DOMAIN_DIRECTORY to the set of overridable variables</span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">  Add an override variable for the DISK file location for each node in a virtual lab. (currently hardcoded /var/lib/libvirt/images in
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/functions.sh__;!!AjveYdw8EvQ!Z4_8uAlE2hflEwoj6PLS-fkscNHofrzze0Z8TcwKqUWt8eZuvXR2BYDbfdQ1NRxwAPidwaXpiTs6mEaYmZdFwN3y3svzl4kA$">
functions.sh</a>)</span></p>
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