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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 12, 2023 8:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> StarlingX ML <starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Starlingx-discuss] Community Communication Channels - VOTE NEEDED</font>
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Hi,<br>
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Thank you all for the feedback so far!<br>
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I haven’t received any objections against the option to start using Matrix as a chat tool for the StarlingX community. People had questions on the Community Call about the tool today, so I collected some useful information to help exploring it:<br>
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- As a reminder, you can find out more about the tool here: <a href="https://matrix.org/">
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmatrix.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cdouglas.pereira%40encora.com%7C8cde130bfb9d432264cc08db832e7b2d%7C1e0c92b0f1bd441ebbe6c778f9ced553%7C0%7C0%7C638248007905555421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=D49m6fzCXfQIfXwXfYIS5soeg%2BztwaA79tv3h9dxTGw%3D&reserved=0</a><br>
- There are different options to use as a browser or desktop client. Many of them are also available on smartphones.<br>
+ I’m using Element - <a href="https://element.io/">https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Felement.io%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cdouglas.pereira%40encora.com%7C8cde130bfb9d432264cc08db832e7b2d%7C1e0c92b0f1bd441ebbe6c778f9ced553%7C0%7C0%7C638248007905555421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0fOYxs0f5kviUFDsqiVOkOn5dBKyQQ7PQxiLHiDk9EU%3D&reserved=0</a><br>
+ Some other options include<br>
~ Weechat - <a href="https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix">https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fpoljar%2Fweechat-matrix&data=05%7C01%7Cdouglas.pereira%40encora.com%7C8cde130bfb9d432264cc08db832e7b2d%7C1e0c92b0f1bd441ebbe6c778f9ced553%7C0%7C0%7C638248007905555421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=74gHLsZPLm%2BLOkmEwka5RIAi8QHxH4iueO1%2F3Ut6TOo%3D&reserved=0</a><br>
~ SchildiChat - <a href="https://schildi.chat/">https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fschildi.chat%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cdouglas.pereira%40encora.com%7C8cde130bfb9d432264cc08db832e7b2d%7C1e0c92b0f1bd441ebbe6c778f9ced553%7C0%7C0%7C638248007905555421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2toirOUtk8DD8mg5vsSy8xS%2FgDxELE1AwOlzbapuXSE%3D&reserved=0</a><br>
~ FluffyChat - <a href="https://fluffychat.im/">https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffluffychat.im%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cdouglas.pereira%40encora.com%7C8cde130bfb9d432264cc08db832e7b2d%7C1e0c92b0f1bd441ebbe6c778f9ced553%7C0%7C0%7C638248007905555421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=VaddpohtfLmc3kdugAJGoDECmidvuduuXMSnIWCvoD4%3D&reserved=0</a><br>
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- The #starlingX IRC channel is also available through Matrix - <a href="https://matrix.to/#/!XDOJNehPiaWKvYGWVD:matrix.org?via=matrix.org">
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmatrix.to%2F%23%2F!XDOJNehPiaWKvYGWVD%3Amatrix.org%3Fvia%3Dmatrix.org&data=05%7C01%7Cdouglas.pereira%40encora.com%7C8cde130bfb9d432264cc08db832e7b2d%7C1e0c92b0f1bd441ebbe6c778f9ced553%7C0%7C0%7C638248007905555421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2FP1ipjfdxTJmaPoqJVE2VSuwg%2FUORDqbxlw%2Bd6KG6Lk%3D&reserved=0</a><br>
~ You will need to create an account first<br>
~ There is documentation available in the Zuul community’s docs about how to register -
<a href="https://zuul-ci.org/docs/zuul/latest/howtos/matrix.html#create-an-account">
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fzuul-ci.org%2Fdocs%2Fzuul%2Flatest%2Fhowtos%2Fmatrix.html%23create-an-account&data=05%7C01%7Cdouglas.pereira%40encora.com%7C8cde130bfb9d432264cc08db832e7b2d%7C1e0c92b0f1bd441ebbe6c778f9ced553%7C0%7C0%7C638248007905555421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t54aPFcB6Ca6iSf5xAezP3pcpo4yhV7TnbXmB9RJlHg%3D&reserved=0</a><br>
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During the Community Call, it also came up that it would be great to agree on how we would like to utilize a chat tool. For instance, to aovid having too many channels, etc. The current proposal to the Matrix setup is the following:<br>
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- Have multiple chat rooms available for community communication:<br>
+ starlingx-general room - topics that are relevant to the whole community<br>
+ StarlingX project team channels<br>
~ topics that are relevant to a project team<br>
~ ie: starlingx-build, starlingx-containers, etc<br>
+ Optional channel ideas - specific topic areas that are outside of the existing project teams<br>
~ starlingx-newcomers<br>
~ starlingx-troubleshooting<br>
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__ If you are in support to use Matrix as the chat tool for StarlingX moving forward, please reply to this email with ‘+1’.__<br>
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Please let me know if you have any questions, or if you need help with setting up Matrix.<br>
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Best Regards,<br>
Ildikó<br>
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Ildikó Váncsa<br>
Director of Community<br>
Open Infrastructure Foundation<br>
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> On Jul 4, 2023, at 21:42, open infra <openinfradn@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
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> CentOS, TDF/LibreOffice, and Libre Graphics use Libra Chat and Scala, and many others use discord.<br>
> Fedora and many others use metrix. I think its better switch to metrix as as the OpenDev Collaboratory has a metrix server (.as Jeremy Stanley mentioned in his reply).<br>
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> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 11:34 PM Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko@openinfra.dev> wrote:<br>
> Hi StarlingX Community,<br>
><br>
> I’m reaching out to you about a recurring topic that came up during the PTG last week again.<br>
><br>
> While the community is actively using the mailing list, it is not always the best platform, as it doesn’t allow for more synchronous chat. Contributors at the event had a growing interest in finding a way to provide the opportunity for more synchronous communication
to capture the project teams’ chatters, and enable newcomers to reach out and start to participate.<br>
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> Challenges:<br>
> * Tooling: People raised that while it is an open protocol, IRC still doesn’t feel inclusive due to its simplicity.<br>
> * Format: The current one-channel setup doesn’t feel efficient and comfortable, since people need to address everyone in the channel with every topic they have a question or comment about.<br>
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> Proposal to move forward:<br>
> * Tooling: The preferred tool in last week’s conversation was Matrix - <a href="https://matrix.org/">
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmatrix.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cdouglas.pereira%40encora.com%7C8cde130bfb9d432264cc08db832e7b2d%7C1e0c92b0f1bd441ebbe6c778f9ced553%7C0%7C0%7C638248007905555421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=D49m6fzCXfQIfXwXfYIS5soeg%2BztwaA79tv3h9dxTGw%3D&reserved=0</a><br>
> - It is an open tool, which ensures continued access to the platform and its features<br>
> - It is more modern than IRC<br>
><br>
> * Format: The idea came up to create multiple channels for the StarlingX project<br>
> - We can keep the all-community channel<br>
> - We can create channels for each project team, that are more topic specific<br>
> - We also have the option to create a channel for newcomers, which could include troubleshooting type of conversations as well<br>
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> In order to identify next steps, please share your feedback about the proposal above. Ie: What do you think about Matrix? Would you be more comfortable using a chat tool with the more fine grained configuration of having multiple channels?<br>
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> Thanks and Best Regards,<br>
> Ildikó<br>
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> Ildikó Váncsa<br>
> Director of Community<br>
> Open Infrastructure Foundation<br>
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