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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Answers are in line.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> Waines, Greg <Greg.Waines@windriver.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 19, 2023 12:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Short, Charles <Charles.Short@windriver.com>; starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Apt-ostree repository<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hey Chuck,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I know we talked about this offline and it was also discussed in today’s StarlingX Community meeting …<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Just to clarify / add-some-detail to your request … for community understanding …<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">‘apt-ostree’ is sort of a hybrid package manager that allows one to build and manage ostree commits based on DEB PKGs<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Correct it will become a hybrid image/package manager that allows to build and manage ostree commits based on Debian packages.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">You are developing this as part of the FLOCK project team’s work on ‘Software Upgrade/Update Evolution’, see stx 9 feature plan spreadsheet
<a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aTjYzUkExodfayt-rjTv466jE-DP8b_YjrTHhXW6G9w/edit#gid=1107209846">
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aTjYzUkExodfayt-rjTv466jE-DP8b_YjrTHhXW6G9w/edit#gid=1107209846</a> .<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Correct<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><o:p> </o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Your development plans for apt-ostree is to develop this generically (i.e. no starlingx specifics), using the debian apt package manager and debian’s ostree package.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">That’s correct I see possible use cases outside of StarlingX where it could possibly be used for example embedded systems for managing updates, installs, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">AND THEN the higher-level StarlingX-specific Software Management code would USE apt-ostree<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">StarlingX manages large number of nodes well. I would hope that apt-ostree gets to the point where apt-ostree can manage Debian based systems well.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><o:p> </o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">As discussed, our long term plans would be to offer/propose this as a debian package to the debian community …. Rather than bury this in starlingx.<o:p></o:p></li><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="circle">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3">And then we would just include this new debian package in our host packages and use it for starlingx<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Correct I would like to start with small and then work our way through a bigger use case within the Debian community.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><o:p> </o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">In the meantime, you’re proposing that we create an apt-ostree repo in starlingx, as sort of an incubation period … in order to develop apt-ostree and meet stx 9 release schedules.<o:p></o:p></li><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="circle">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3">With the intent to move it to the debian community later.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Correct<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Greg.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">p.s. I’m a +1 for new short-term apt-ostree repo<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> Short, Charles <</span><a href="mailto:Charles.Short@windriver.com"><span style="mso-ligatures:none">Charles.Short@windriver.com</span></a><span style="mso-ligatures:none">>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 18, 2023 4:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io"><span style="mso-ligatures:none">starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io</span></a><span style="mso-ligatures:none"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Starlingx-discuss] Apt-ostree repository<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I been working on a Debian based ostree package management system for the past couple of months. It is similar to how rpm-ostree manages packages with ostree on Fedora. I was wondering if there were any objections to adding the repository
to the starlingx namespace on <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/opendev.org?__;!!AjveYdw8EvQ!YPEW0Kab6M1hz6pbYzHOhQ_khQOwG90S7EmOyVfTRXVVALfj-2KfGKo3e9KTKjDB5vYhp_YnWE2YvptC1O9baK7EpcNYXpg$">
opendev.org?</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">chuck<o:p></o:p></p>
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